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Автор темы: Miriam Deutscher
Miriam Deutscher
Miriam Deutscher
Local time: 18:00
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Feb 22, 2011

I'm new to CAT tools at all (my areas of specialization are usually not particularly repetitive) but since Across is free I decided it's worth a try.

How does Across rate as compared to other CAT tools? Although it doesn't cost money, it is "costing" me a lot of time to learn my way around it. So far I am impressed. My one big complaint is that it doesn't support translating from a right to left language into a left to right (Hebrew into English) by being able to change the source a
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I'm new to CAT tools at all (my areas of specialization are usually not particularly repetitive) but since Across is free I decided it's worth a try.

How does Across rate as compared to other CAT tools? Although it doesn't cost money, it is "costing" me a lot of time to learn my way around it. So far I am impressed. My one big complaint is that it doesn't support translating from a right to left language into a left to right (Hebrew into English) by being able to change the source and target language positions on the screen. It would be much more pleasant the other way around.

I also miss some of my autocorrect functions in Word. On the other hand, it automatically formats and I can be sure I haven't missed anything.

So is it worth the time and effort to learn it (compared to other CAT tools and compared to not using a CAT tool at all)?
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Mr Florida
Mr Florida
Local time: 11:00
немецкий => английский
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Buggy Feb 23, 2011

I have been working with Across for a couple clients for roughly 2 years now. I think Across is extremely buggy. Even getting an older version PowerPoint (PPT) or Word with embedded macros (DOC) into the target preview is a challenge because PowerPoint target previews show the source language in about 80% of the PowerPoint blocks and Across scripts block dialogs that Word throws in case of certain document errors (open Word beforehand to see the dialogs). I hate the default paragraph segmentatio... See more
I have been working with Across for a couple clients for roughly 2 years now. I think Across is extremely buggy. Even getting an older version PowerPoint (PPT) or Word with embedded macros (DOC) into the target preview is a challenge because PowerPoint target previews show the source language in about 80% of the PowerPoint blocks and Across scripts block dialogs that Word throws in case of certain document errors (open Word beforehand to see the dialogs). I hate the default paragraph segmentation in Across, don't they know that patents have paragraphs half a page long and longer? I laugh that CrossTank thinks "Hello!" and "Hello." are 100% matches. I cannot believe certain technical errors that occur when working with an Across server, e.g. the synchronization of CrossTank entries causes exponential CrossTank growth due to duplicates, and Across tries to downgrade the client whenever an Across server is outdated. I despise the Across support that always wants to remote access the supported PC. NEVER!!! I don't like the footprint of the SQL database, don't like that it's configured to consume your PC unless you actively modify SQL settings, and overall think that the price of the Across client is quite a decent reflection of its value. On the bright side, it's better than working with paper and pencil, though I will stay with Trados when it's possible, thank you very much.Collapse


 
Adrian Grant
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Великобритания
Local time: 16:00
португальский => английский
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Across Feb 23, 2011

In my experience it's as good as - or in some cases better than - the other CAT tools I've tried.
It's also free, and, again in my experience, their customer support is very good.

On the whole, very little to dislike about it.


 
Walter Moura
Walter Moura  Identity Verified
Бразилия
Local time: 13:00
английский => португальский
A most excellent tool at a superb price. Feb 23, 2011

I think Across is an excellent tool. I use quite often, and so far I found no flaws that were not corrected by their technical support. I find it better than many mainstream cat tools. I am currently translating a very heavy MSWord document, full of photos, tables and textboxes. I put it into Across and all I have to do is translate. Not a worry in me.

Miriam, Across do support translating from right to left language
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I think Across is an excellent tool. I use quite often, and so far I found no flaws that were not corrected by their technical support. I find it better than many mainstream cat tools. I am currently translating a very heavy MSWord document, full of photos, tables and textboxes. I put it into Across and all I have to do is translate. Not a worry in me.

Miriam, Across do support translating from right to left language. Just press the button "right to the left" and Voila, there you have it. It is next to a button with a X in the edit section.

Mr. Florida, you can change the default segmentation in Across. When you import a document file, after selecting the languages (source and targer), click "Next". In the following window, click "Configure"  Splitting settings. Choose Split Paragraph into sentences OR Split a Paragraph bigger than. In characters, you can choose how many characters suit you. I usually choose 2000 characters.

I hope it can help you as it helps me.

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Elena Favero
Elena Favero  Identity Verified
Италия
Local time: 17:00
английский => итальянский
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Across Feb 23, 2011

I think this is a good software, and give you the opportunity to choose between a great number of function and options. And it is equipped with a complete manual (it is not so common with free CAT tools)

 
AAV
AAV
Local time: 23:00
Penalty for punctuation Feb 25, 2011

Mr Florida wrote:

...I laugh that CrossTank thinks "Hello!" and "Hello." are 100% matches.

By default it will be 95% match, looks like you have changed penalty settings for crossTank manually.
Try to set Punctuation penalty to non-zero value (Tools -> Profile settings -> crossTank/Penalties).


 
Andrej
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Local time: 21:00
Член ProZ.com c 2005
немецкий => русский
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... Feb 25, 2011

The worst CAT I ever worked with. And I worked with most of them.

 
Epameinondas Soufleros
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Греция
Local time: 18:00
Член ProZ.com c 2008
английский => греческий (новогреческий)
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Seriously obsolete Feb 26, 2011

It's heavy on your PC, it's sluggish, it's a complex mess of bits and pieces, shreds and patches, it's terrible to look at and cumbersome to work with. All in all, it's not a tool to consider in 2011, I believe.

 
Steven Capsuto
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США
Local time: 11:00
испанский => английский
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I wanted to try it last year as a possible replacement for Trados... Feb 26, 2011

But the installer crashed my computer. Never got to see the actual program. I tried downloading it twice and the same thing happened. It didn't inspire confidence. Now I'm trying MemoQ, which I like a lot and will probably switch to.

 
Epameinondas Soufleros
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Греция
Local time: 18:00
Член ProZ.com c 2008
английский => греческий (новогреческий)
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Across as a replacement for Trados? Feb 26, 2011

If you replaced Trados with Across, you wouldn't notice any significant changes for the better. They're both German software, and they're equally cumbersome and un-intuitive. Maybe it's a cultural thing (no offence intended).

 
Laurent KRAULAND (X)
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Франция
Local time: 17:00
французский => немецкий
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The same happened to me... Feb 26, 2011

Steven Capsuto wrote:

But the installer crashed my computer. Never got to see the actual program. I tried downloading it twice and the same thing happened. It didn't inspire confidence. Now I'm trying MemoQ, which I like a lot and will probably switch to.


The same happened to me with a new computer back in 2008. I never tried an installation of Across again.


 
Roy OConnor (X)
Roy OConnor (X)
Local time: 17:00
немецкий => английский
A subjective comment Feb 27, 2011

Let's face it, most CAT tools are pretty complicated and not that easy to learn. Although it was free, I am not very happy using Across. I have done quite a bit of agency work with it and find it cumbersome and slow. I miss the autosuggest function of Trados Studio which saves a lot of typing. But then again I haven't used Studio in the agency/package mode.

 
Louisa Berry
Louisa Berry
Великобритания
Local time: 16:00
немецкий => английский
First and preferred CAT tool Feb 27, 2011

Across was the first CAT tool I installed when I started freelancing, mainly at the time because it was free. However, 3 years or so later it is still my preferred CAT tool. I have tried Omega T and Wordfast and I own Trados Studio 2009 and 2007. I really don't get on with 2007 and if clients insist they need an unclean ttx I process it in 2009. I quite like 2009 and it has some nice features that Across doesn't have, but I think there are a couple of things in Across that I like that Studio 200... See more
Across was the first CAT tool I installed when I started freelancing, mainly at the time because it was free. However, 3 years or so later it is still my preferred CAT tool. I have tried Omega T and Wordfast and I own Trados Studio 2009 and 2007. I really don't get on with 2007 and if clients insist they need an unclean ttx I process it in 2009. I quite like 2009 and it has some nice features that Across doesn't have, but I think there are a couple of things in Across that I like that Studio 2009 doesn't have. I don't have the time to go into detail im afraid. One of the nice things about Across is that they offer free, albeit limited support, some free training and it comes with a manual. I would probably use Studio a lot more if I had a manual I could work through and teach myself things.

If you like it so far, I would keep going and maybe do some of the tutorials available on their website or attend one of their free webinars.

Louisa


[Edited at 2011-02-27 15:03 GMT]
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Max Chernov
Max Chernov
Россия
Local time: 19:00
русский => немецкий
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Number 2 on my list Feb 27, 2011

Across is № 2 on my list of CATs. Unfortunatelly I have not enough orders with Across, but I have lot of experience. At least I was the first Across-user in Russia and am one of Across-superusers.

 
Andrej
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Local time: 21:00
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немецкий => русский
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No manuals? Feb 28, 2011

Louisa Fox wrote:

I would probably use Studio a lot more if I had a manual I could work through and teach myself things.


There are no manuals for Studio?


 
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