Welsh language's future under spotlight after census figures
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| | | Welsh speakers too polite....? | Dec 17, 2012 |
Rolls on the floor, laughing.... has he ever been to Wales? I doubt if there has ever been such an intense, aggressive, racist, xenophobic attempt to impose an extinct language on an unwilling population in the whole of European history. "Polite" is not a word that immediately springs to my mind when thinking of Welsh language campaigners.
| | | | Ty Kendall 
Великобритания
Local time: 22:09
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| I actually feel for them.... | Dec 17, 2012 |
After all, you can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs...and we are talking about the survival or death of a unique and beautiful language. (It's far from extinct).
....this must be the hardcore linguist in me, but the death of a language should not be allowed to occur for fear of appearing "unpleasant" (racist, xenophobic etc.).
The surpression of other languages, especially English (or at the very least relegating them to a lower status in society) is a nec... See more After all, you can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs...and we are talking about the survival or death of a unique and beautiful language. (It's far from extinct).
....this must be the hardcore linguist in me, but the death of a language should not be allowed to occur for fear of appearing "unpleasant" (racist, xenophobic etc.).
The surpression of other languages, especially English (or at the very least relegating them to a lower status in society) is a necessary evil if Welsh is to stand a chance.
All is not fair in language wars. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | "Cracking a few eggs.." | Dec 17, 2012 |
..being presumably beating up English students in the street simply for being English? This has happened to both myself and my son over a span of twenty five odd years. If Welsh language campaigners wish to appear credible they must first stop being thugs. I won't hold my breath.
Steve K.
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Великобритания
Local time: 22:09
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| You presume wrong.... | Dec 17, 2012 |
....Of course it didn't mean that. There will always be zealots in this world and I'm sorry you and your family have had experiences with them, but I wouldn't say that the majority of Welsh language campaigners promote/endorse violence, which is reprehensible of course.
They can't all be tarred with the same brush, surely.
*To clarify: when I said "cracking a few eggs" I meant just "putting a few people's noses out of joint"...in the figurative sense, not the lit... See more ....Of course it didn't mean that. There will always be zealots in this world and I'm sorry you and your family have had experiences with them, but I wouldn't say that the majority of Welsh language campaigners promote/endorse violence, which is reprehensible of course.
They can't all be tarred with the same brush, surely.
*To clarify: when I said "cracking a few eggs" I meant just "putting a few people's noses out of joint"...in the figurative sense, not the literal one! ▲ Collapse
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DanielJosephy
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Obviously beating is not the solution, but it is also clear that there needs to be even more emphasis on Welsh teaching if the language wants to survive; and the steps taking in the 90s certainly saved the language. It's comparable with Québec being surrounded by English, although Québecois obviously has a healthier status than Welsh. I myself will take a Welsh course next January.
| | | | | Rights of the languages vs. right of individuals | Dec 17, 2012 |
Every time I hear about measures (paid by all) to preserve a language (only used and valued by a few), I cannot help but thinking that languages seem to have more rights than individuals.
Sounds a bit like when some talk about the "rights of the people". I immediately feel my wallet to make sure it is still there.
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