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| Marie Lamardelle Франция Local time: 09:03 Член ProZ.com c 2018 английский => французский
I got the same offer as you this afternoon, from this Crothers Ackman. I don't trust any e-mail when they don't give any information about how they found me and what their project is about. Kind regards, Marie | | | Contacted by the same person | Apr 4, 2019 |
Same here. This person contacted me yesterday. He insisted on paying part of the work in advance, so I sent him an invoice with a simple IBAN number. Then I realized it could be a scam when he kept on asking further information. That's when I read you post, so many thanks ! | | | This is also no guarantee.... | Apr 4, 2019 |
Marie Lamardelle wrote: I got the same offer as you this afternoon, from this Crothers Ackman. I don't trust any e-mail when they don't give any information about how they found me and what their project is about. Kind regards, Marie I have received a good many scam messages that include some version of the following in the initial paragraph: “We found your information on the ATA website and have a project for you involving translation of a research paper on breast cancer.” So be wary. | | | I had no idea.... | Apr 4, 2019 |
Sheila Wilson wrote: 2. PayPal is not an entirely safe way of receiving payments. It's fine for "trusted" clients, if a little costly at times. But a scammer has only to report to PayPal that they haven't received the services paid for and the funds will be returned to them, or at least taken from your account and held by PayPal while the matter is settled. I am somewhat embarrassed to admit that I had no idea that such a scam was possible via PayPal. I suppose that it would be easy enough to verify to PayPal’s satisfaction that a translation was delivered and receipt thereof acknowledged. But who knows how long it would take for PayPal to resolve the matter? And who knows if the money would actually be (re-)transferred in the end? Anyway, I count myself lucky that this never happened to me. Knowing of such a possibility also means that the only really safe payment in cases of clients that cannot be fully trusted would appear to be MoneyGram/Western Union transfers (or similar). | |
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Paweł Hamerski (X) Local time: 09:03 английский => польский + ... The spammers are of the same | Apr 4, 2019 |
mind | | | Yoana Ivanova Эстония Local time: 10:03 английский => болгарский + ... PayPal is safe | Apr 5, 2019 |
Robert Forstag wrote: Sheila Wilson wrote: 2. PayPal is not an entirely safe way of receiving payments. It's fine for "trusted" clients, if a little costly at times. But a scammer has only to report to PayPal that they haven't received the services paid for and the funds will be returned to them, or at least taken from your account and held by PayPal while the matter is settled. I am somewhat embarrassed to admit that I had no idea that such a scam was possible via PayPal. I suppose that it would be easy enough to verify to PayPal’s satisfaction that a translation was delivered and receipt thereof acknowledged. But who knows how long it would take for PayPal to resolve the matter? And who knows if the money would actually be (re-)transferred in the end? Anyway, I count myself lucky that this never happened to me. Knowing of such a possibility also means that the only really safe payment in cases of clients that cannot be fully trusted would appear to be MoneyGram/Western Union transfers (or similar). PayPal is quite safe in that regard. You just have to show them that you delivered what was asked of you and they will not transfer back the money. Issues get resolved in no more than three days. It'll be too complicated for scammers to somehow prove that your translation was faulty or whatever in order to get the money back. Hence why PayPal hasn't yet been used in such scams. | | | Sheila Wilson Испания Local time: 08:03 Член ProZ.com c 2007 английский + ... Do you have experience of that, Yoana? | Apr 5, 2019 |
Yoana Ivanova wrote: PayPal is quite safe in that regard. You just have to show them that you delivered what was asked of you and they will not transfer back the money. Issues get resolved in no more than three days. It'll be too complicated for scammers to somehow prove that your translation was faulty or whatever in order to get the money back. Hence why PayPal hasn't yet been used in such scams. Are you speaking from personal experience, Yoana? I'd like it to be true but my husband has been on the other end a couple of times, as a buyer (of goods rather than services). Of course, he's not a scammer. so he had a legitimate reason for wanting his money back, but each time, PayPal were happy to refund it with no fuss and remarkably little firm evidence. They pretty much took his word for it. I imagine the suppliers weren't happy, but there was no communication with them and no more with PayPal on the subject. That's why the idea of PayPal for advance payments worries me when scammers are possibly involved. The scammer has made you feel all warm and comfortable, with their money in your account. If something happens now that's fishy, you're far more likely to let it pass: "He's paid; he must be legitimate. Anyway, I have to do the work now that I've been paid." | | |
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got exactly the same email today | Apr 7, 2019 |
I got exactly the same email today from [email protected] for exactly the same project. Emailed him back threatening to report him to the police and copied this thread into my email. | | | Did he say thank you? | Apr 7, 2019 |
Rory Andrew Gale wrote: I got exactly the same email today from [email protected] for exactly the same project. Emailed him back threatening to report him to the police and copied this thread into my email. He must have been grateful for so many practical tips. | | |
Dear all, I also received a message from Crothers Ackman on Saturday at 19.38 CET... Thank you for this post. It confirms what I thought. Have a nice day! Marie | | | just got similar request from a person name Shanna | Apr 8, 2019 |
I just got a similar request of service translating from English to Chinese. I am surprised that I just registered Proz a couple of days ago and so soon got a job to do. Looks like this business is so easy. My first response is that it is a scam, so that I did google search with the term "proz service fraud" and got to this thread. I am still confused how that person got my email address and the email sent to me was through . Does mean that proz has some backdoor leak? BTW, the email to ... See more I just got a similar request of service translating from English to Chinese. I am surprised that I just registered Proz a couple of days ago and so soon got a job to do. Looks like this business is so easy. My first response is that it is a scam, so that I did google search with the term "proz service fraud" and got to this thread. I am still confused how that person got my email address and the email sent to me was through . Does mean that proz has some backdoor leak? BTW, the email to me is ([email protected]). Anybody got same request from this email too? ▲ Collapse | |
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Katarzyna Slowikova wrote: Rory Andrew Gale wrote: I got exactly the same email today from [email protected] for exactly the same project. Emailed him back threatening to report him to the police and copied this thread into my email. He must have been grateful for so many practical tips. As others have also repeatedly indicated, I do not think it makes sense to convey too much detail about the obvious flaws in these scam attempts. We should not be helping scammers refine their attempts to defraud us and our colleagues. | | | Sarper Aman Турция Local time: 10:03 Член ProZ.com c 2019 английский => турецкий + ... And the Oscar goes to... | Apr 10, 2019 |
That email address! | | | You can be sure it is a scam when... | Apr 10, 2019 |
You can be sure it is a scam when they are more concerned (sometimes overly concerned) about how they are going to pay you, when they are going to pay you, etc. and not very concerned, or concerned at all, about the translation. Most normal private consumers are concerned about the quality of the translation, when it will be done, etc. and you have to pull teeth to get payment information from them.
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