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WolfgangS
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| In German we have "Unwörter" | Aug 17, 2023 |
òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.
[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT] [/quote]
...bears a common acknowledged notion, yes. If not, then not. [/quote]
Who says? [/quote]
You. You have to prove that òpidubvè97r is also a word with a commonly acknowledged notion and others would have to confirm. [/quote]
Der Begriff Unwort ist ein Schlagwort aus dem Bereich der Sprachkritik und bezeichnet ein „unschönes“, aber auch ein „unerw�... See more òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.
[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT] [/quote]
...bears a common acknowledged notion, yes. If not, then not. [/quote]
Who says? [/quote]
You. You have to prove that òpidubvè97r is also a word with a commonly acknowledged notion and others would have to confirm. [/quote]
Der Begriff Unwort ist ein Schlagwort aus dem Bereich der Sprachkritik und bezeichnet ein „unschönes“, aber auch ein „unerwünschtes“ Wort.
The term "Unwort" is a catchword from the field of linguistic criticism and denotes an "unattractive", but also an "undesirable" word. ▲ Collapse
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expressisverbis
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finnword1 wrote:
One of the most useless words in the English language is "whatsoever". (None whatsoever is already none). Any other nominations for the list?
In my native language and especially in my profession every word is useful, even swear words said at the right time.
I believe that every translator like me thinks this way.
If there are words in our native language or in a foreign language we like less, that's another story...
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Wolfgang Schoene wrote:
Der Begriff Unwort ist ein Schlagwort aus dem Bereich der Sprachkritik und bezeichnet ein „unschönes“, aber auch ein „unerwünschtes“ Wort.
The term "Unwort" is a catchword from the field of linguistic criticism and denotes an "unattractive", but also an "undesirable" word.
Interesting. Like Kraut (herb) and Unkraut (weeds). Back in time, Unkraut was mistranslated into Danish as ukrudt, which literally means 'non-gunpowder'.
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Matthias Brombach 
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Lingua 5B wrote:
Matthias Brombach wrote:
Tom in London wrote:
Matthias Brombach wrote:
Tom in London wrote:
òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.
[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT]
...bears a common acknowledged notion, yes. If not, then not.
Who says?
You. You have to prove that òpidubvè97r is also a word with a commonly acknowledged notion and others would have to confirm.
A word needs to have a meaning. So what you wrote does not qualify.
...defines the meaning?
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Tom in London
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Michele Fauble
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| Basic linguistics | Aug 17, 2023 |
Matthias Brombach wrote:
Lingua 5B wrote:
Matthias Brombach wrote:
Tom in London wrote:
Matthias Brombach wrote:
Tom in London wrote:
òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.
[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT]
...bears a common acknowledged notion, yes. If not, then not.
Who says?
You. You have to prove that òpidubvè97r is also a word with a commonly acknowledged notion and others would have to confirm.
A word needs to have a meaning. So what you wrote does not qualify.
And who …
...defines the meaning?
A community of speakers.
[Edited at 2023-08-17 18:13 GMT]
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Tom in London
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| Yes it does, and no it doesn't. | Aug 17, 2023 |
Sir Tristram, violer d’amores, fr’over the short sea, had passencore rearrived from North Armorica on this side the scraggy isthmus of Europe Minor to wielderfight his penisolate war: nor had topsawyer’s rocks by the stream Oconee exaggerated themselse to Laurens County’s gorgios while they went doublin their mumper all the time: nor avoice from afire bellowsed mishe mishe to tauftauf thuartpeatrick not yet, though venissoon after, had a kidscad buttended a bland old isaac: not yet, thou... See more Sir Tristram, violer d’amores, fr’over the short sea, had passencore rearrived from North Armorica on this side the scraggy isthmus of Europe Minor to wielderfight his penisolate war: nor had topsawyer’s rocks by the stream Oconee exaggerated themselse to Laurens County’s gorgios while they went doublin their mumper all the time: nor avoice from afire bellowsed mishe mishe to tauftauf thuartpeatrick not yet, though venissoon after, had a kidscad buttended a bland old isaac: not yet, though all’s fair in vanessy, were sosie sesthers wroth with twone nathandjoe. Rot a peck of pa’s malt had Jhem or Shen brewed by arclight and rory end to the regginbrow was to be seen ringsome on the aquaface..... ▲ Collapse
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finnword1
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Автор темы | I am talking about English words | Aug 17, 2023 |
Baran Keki wrote:
powwow?
Powwow is Prozcomish.
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Metin Demirel
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| Please supply attribution | Aug 18, 2023 |
Tom in London wrote:
Sir Tristram, violer d’amores, fr’over the short sea, had passencore rearrived from North Armorica on this side the scraggy isthmus of Europe Minor to wielderfight his penisolate war: nor had topsawyer’s rocks by the stream Oconee exaggerated themselse to Laurens County’s gorgios while they went doublin their mumper all the time: nor avoice from afire bellowsed mishe mishe to tauftauf thuartpeatrick not yet, though venissoon after, had a kidscad buttended a bland old isaac: not yet, though all’s fair in vanessy, were sosie sesthers wroth with twone nathandjoe. Rot a peck of pa’s malt had Jhem or Shen brewed by arclight and rory end to the regginbrow was to be seen ringsome on the aquaface.....
For those colleagues unfamiliar with Finnegan's Wake.
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Philip Lees
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Tom in London wrote:
òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.
It's certainly a word according to this definition.
Assuming standard ASCII encoding, it's an 88-bit word.
How many kilowords do we plan to devote to this topic?
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Kay Denney
Франция
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Philip Lees wrote:
Tom in London wrote:
òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.
It's certainly a word according to this definition.
Assuming standard ASCII encoding, it's an 88-bit word.
How many kilowords do we plan to devote to this topic?
I'd answer you, but I'm not sure whether kilowords is a word and I'm not looking it up because I'm off duty, having just delivered the only translation on my to-do list for today.
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Kay Denney
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Wolfgang Schoene wrote:
Der Begriff Unwort ist ein Schlagwort aus dem Bereich der Sprachkritik und bezeichnet ein „unschönes“, aber auch ein „unerwünschtes“ Wort.
The term "Unwort" is a catchword from the field of linguistic criticism and denotes an "unattractive", but also an "undesirable" word.
I read this and... I can just feel myself falling in love with German all over again! I hadn't felt this way since coming across the sheer perfection of the word "muffig".
[Edited at 2023-08-18 07:26 GMT]
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Tom in London
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| You made the usual mistake | Aug 18, 2023 |
Kevin Fulton wrote:
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For those colleagues unfamiliar with Finnegan's Wake. [/quote]
There is no apostrophe. Perhaps Joyce was simply stating that Finnegans (whatever they are) have a tendency to wake.
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| Please forgive me if I stray slightly | Aug 18, 2023 |
The importance of every word (even when not explicitly said) reminded me of an episode with a friend of mine, a sound designer, who at the time (during the years of the so-called Carnation Revolution) worked for the official TV in Portugal and played Dalida's famous song "Parole, Parole" (just the music, without the words) immediately after a political speech (I don't remember if it was the President of the Republic or the President of the Council of Ministers) and for that she was punished with... See more The importance of every word (even when not explicitly said) reminded me of an episode with a friend of mine, a sound designer, who at the time (during the years of the so-called Carnation Revolution) worked for the official TV in Portugal and played Dalida's famous song "Parole, Parole" (just the music, without the words) immediately after a political speech (I don't remember if it was the President of the Republic or the President of the Council of Ministers) and for that she was punished with a suspension... ▲ Collapse
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