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Jun 28, 2005 17:32
18 yrs ago
Russian term

И не занижайте планку из ложной скромности.

Russian to English Tech/Engineering Marketing General
Previous sentence: During the first phase, it is very important to acknowledge what you want to get out of this endeavor.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 Do not be too modest.
4 +1 don't sell yourself short (out of false modesty)
4 do not lower the bar
4 Don't lower your fee out of false modesty
4 Do not fall victim to the false humility of low self-expectations
3 don't lower your goals out of false modesty
3 dont lower...
3 and please don't charge too low because of (a false) underestimating yourselves
Change log

Jun 29, 2005 13:38: Konstantin Kisin changed "Field (specific)" from "Idioms / Maxims / Sayings" to "Marketing"

Discussion

Sergei Tumanov Jun 28, 2005:
literally: do not put rod at 1.90 if you can jump 2.10 but do not want to draw to much attention to you (because you are modest and do not want to disturb/offend present champion)
Konstantin Kisin Jun 28, 2005:
sell yourself short is good. I suspect undersell is a bit of a UK thing. Sounds good like that.
Non-ProZ.com Jun 28, 2005:
Network marketing...hey, it's working for me! Or am I working for it? :) :)
Non-ProZ.com Jun 28, 2005:
Kostya! How about, "Don't be too modest and sell yourself short"? Your "undersell" made me think of it.
Konstantin Kisin Jun 28, 2005:
Ahaha, yeah... right! :)
Non-ProZ.com Jun 28, 2005:
following sentence:

Network marketing exits so that you may live all of your wildest dreams!
Non-ProZ.com Jun 28, 2005:
It's a network marketing thing...Kostya, I like your proposal, but I was hoping someone could come up with something a bit more idiomatic. I'm bushed and brainfarting at this point. :) :)

Proposed translations

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9 mins
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Do not be too modest.

a bit of a simplification but...more context would help if pos, Kurt :)

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Note added at 15 mins (2005-06-28 17:48:12 GMT)
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do not undersell yourself...? tell me when I start brainfarting :)
Peer comment(s):
agree Robert Donahue (X) : Don't be too modest and sell yourself short (OK, it wasn't specifically your answer but you were the INSPIRATION/SPARK here so to speak).//I meant that in the most masculine way possible. ;-)
2 hrs
I'm having trouble imagining myself as a muse hahaha :) Thanks Rob
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "You got the points because you do the muse thing so well! Thanks to all for the help. Several good answers."
22 mins
Russian term (edited): � �� ��������� ������ �� ������ ����������.

don't lower your goals out of false modesty

...not too idiomatic though.
"lower your jump" perhaps
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28 mins
Russian term (edited): � �� ��������� ������ �� ������ ����������.

dont lower...

а если буквально:
don't lower the plank (i'm not sure), the ceiling...out of false modesty...
don't underestimate..
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15 mins
Russian term (edited): � �� ��������� ������ �� ������ ����������.

and please don't charge too low because of (a false) underestimating yourselves

I understand it like this. A wise advise, by the way! ;-)

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Note added at 18 mins (2005-06-28 17:51:08 GMT)
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and, please, don\'t be too shame to charge as much as you deserve

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Note added at 20 mins (2005-06-28 17:53:08 GMT)
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and please don\'t shame to charge as much as you really deserve

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Note added at 1 hr 25 mins (2005-06-28 18:58:06 GMT)
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don\'t be ashamed to charge...
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1 hr
Russian term (edited): � �� ��������� ������ �� ������ ����������.

do not lower the bar

Peer comment(s):
neutral Konstantin Kisin : To lower the bar means to make the targets easier, for example to reduce the difficulty of exams. It cannot be used in this context.
17 mins
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+1
2 hrs
Russian term (edited): � �� ��������� ������ �� ������ ����������.

don't sell yourself short (out of false modesty)

sell oneself short

- underestimate oneself

He is selling himself short when he thinks that he can`t do any other job.
http://www.idiomconnection.com/squiz.html

Another option is "don't shortchange yourself (out of false modesty)"

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Note added at 2 hrs 59 mins (2005-06-28 20:31:40 GMT)
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Oops, just noticed that Kostya proposed my first answer in the Asker note section. I agree with him (great minds thinking alike and all). : ) So I\'ll go with \"shortchange\".
Peer comment(s):
agree Nina Tchernova
6 hrs
Thanks Nina.
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4 hrs

Don't lower your fee out of false modesty

perhaps, fees, bur not so sure here. Hope it helps. Good luck, Kurt Porter!

Negotiating the Price You Deserve: The Salesperson's Dilemma ...
If you lower your fee, I think we can get you hired." I was faced with the classic sales negotiation dilemma: I wanted the deal, but did I have to drop my ...
www.negotiationbootcamp.com/ NegotiationArticles/SalespersonsDilemma.html
Reference:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&biw=1003&q=+%22lower+your+fees%22&btnG=Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&biw=1003&q=+%22lower+your+fee%22&btnG=Search

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6 hrs
Russian term (edited): � �� ��������� ������ �� ������ ����������.

Do not fall victim to the false humility of low self-expectations

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