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Wolfgang Schoene
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Feb 8, 2023

Today I went to the local Apple store and asked what if the SSD of my 2019 iMac bites the dust?
Answer: The SSD is soldered on the motherboard, Apple store does no repair, you have to find a repair shop. Huh!?!
Before this ever happens I think the best solution is to clone the internal Macintosh SSD to an external SSD and, should the internal SSD bite the dust one day, to boot from the external SSD.
SuperDuper makes perfectly working Monterey clones (no incremental updates, tho
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Today I went to the local Apple store and asked what if the SSD of my 2019 iMac bites the dust?
Answer: The SSD is soldered on the motherboard, Apple store does no repair, you have to find a repair shop. Huh!?!
Before this ever happens I think the best solution is to clone the internal Macintosh SSD to an external SSD and, should the internal SSD bite the dust one day, to boot from the external SSD.
SuperDuper makes perfectly working Monterey clones (no incremental updates, though, you always have to clone the entire SSD, regularly, of course).
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Tom in London
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Not any more Feb 8, 2023

Wolfgang wrote:

.... I think the best solution is to clone the internal Macintosh SSD to an external SSD and, should the internal SSD bite the dust one day, to boot from the external SSD.



Alas, cloning is no longer an option with the new M1/M2 Macs


 
Hans Lenting
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SmartUpdate Feb 9, 2023

Wolfgang wrote:

SuperDuper makes perfectly working Monterey clones (no incremental updates, though, you always have to clone the entire SSD, regularly, of course).


Isn’t that what SmartUpdate is for?



[Edited at 2023-02-09 12:06 GMT]


 
Hans Lenting
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Apple Silicon Feb 9, 2023

Tom in London wrote:

Alas, cloning is no longer an option with the new M1/M2 Macs


They say:

Version 3.7.2 supports bootable backups for Big Sur, Monterey, and Ventura, is Apple silicon native


 
Hans Lenting
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Studio or Mini Feb 9, 2023

Wolfgang wrote:

Today I went to the local Apple store and asked what if the SSD of my 2019 iMac bites the dust?
Answer: The SSD is soldered on the motherboard, Apple store does no repair, you have to find a repair shop. Huh!?


In case I’ll have to replace my iMac, I’ll go for a Mac and an external screen, very likely from another manufacturer. No iMac for me anymore.


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Tom in London
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For the technicalities, see here Feb 9, 2023

Hans Lenting wrote:

Wolfgang wrote:

Today I went to the local Apple store and asked what if the SSD of my 2019 iMac bites the dust?
Answer: The SSD is soldered on the motherboard, Apple store does no repair, you have to find a repair shop. Huh!?


In case I’ll have to replace my iMac, I’ll go for a Mac and an external screen, very likely from another manufacturer. No iMac for me anymore.


Here's a very good explanation by the excellent Mike Bombich as to why (because of decisions taken by Apple) you can no longer *reliably* clone a Mac hard drive using Carbon Copy Cloner, or boot from it :

https://tinyurl.com/yzol4h7h

However - seemingly. SuperDuper doesn't have that limitation....although in the SD discussion forums there are various reports of clones that won't boot.



[Edited at 2023-02-09 08:01 GMT]


 
Wolfgang Schoene
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You are right Feb 9, 2023

Hans Lenting wrote:

Wolfgang wrote:

SuperDuper makes perfectly working Monterey clones (no incremental updates, though, you always have to clone the entire SSD, regularly, of course).


Isn’t that what SmartUpdate us for?


Just updated my Ventura backup on the external SSD using SmartUpdate, it worked perfectly well and took only 9 mins.
I'm writing from the cloned system right now.
I wasn't even aware of this option, thanks Hans!

[Edited at 2023-02-09 09:06 GMT]


Hans Lenting
 
Tom in London
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thanks Feb 9, 2023

I'll give SuperDuper a try

LATER

Cloned the HD of my M1 Mac to an external USB drive.

Rebooted the M1 Mac holding down the power key. This gives the option of which drive to boot from.

Selected the external USB drive. But the Mac still insists on booting from the internal drive and puts up this warning:

Screenshot



Many discussion forums report a similar issue.

[Edited at 2023-02-09 15:01 GMT]


 
Wolfgang Schoene
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Can't help you Feb 9, 2023

Tom in London wrote:

I'll give SuperDuper a try

LATER

Cloned the HD of my M1 Mac to an external USB drive.

Rebooted the M1 Mac holding down the power key. This gives the option of which drive to boot from.

Selected the external USB drive. But the Mac still insists on booting from the internal drive and puts up this warning:

Screenshot



Many discussion forums report a similar issue.

[Edited at 2023-02-09 15:01 GMT]


Last Mac I bought was a 2019 Intel iMac, buying an M1 was to risky as I have to run Windows stuff on my machine and incompatibility I hate.
But have a look here, a forum about Mac stuff with very knowledgeable people: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ventura-13-2-superduper.2379695/ but maybe you know the place already.


 


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