Glossary entry

Swedish term or phrase:

surdråget

English translation:

bog/fen stream; drainage from a bog or fen; wet hollows

Added to glossary by Charlesp
May 17, 2013 06:02
11 yrs ago
Swedish term

surdråget

Swedish to English Social Sciences Geography
Surdråget och Sumpskogen. Surdråget and Marsh Forest


Naturvärdet består om branten, surdråget och sumpskogen.

...mycke vatten där i surdråget från en liten myr...


http://halmstadsnaturskyddsforening.wordpress.com/2012/05/
Change log

May 21, 2013 09:22: Charlesp changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/89240">Charlesp's</a> old entry - "surdråget"" to ""bog/fen stream; acidic drainage from a bog or fen""

Discussion

Charlesp (asker) May 21, 2013:
Actually the drainage is acidic That is due to all of the acid rain in Sweden and Scandanavia in general. But I don't want to get into the science of it here.
Deane Goltermann May 21, 2013:
@Anna The acidity comes from the 'myr' in this context which seems to be the source of the water. Agree the term in itself does not seem to imply acidity. Flush vs stream would certainly depend on how the water flows. Otherwise, as Charles says, helpful and useful information!
Charlesp (asker) May 21, 2013:
Thanks Anna. Very, very helpful and useful information. Those referring to this page in the future as a reference will also appreciate this information.
Anna Herbst May 21, 2013:
Nothing to do with acidity "Sur" in the word "surdråg" means "wet" or "damp". The definition of the word in Skoglig ordlista is: Surdråg - Litet område med vattenmättad mark i sänka. http://www.skogsstyrelsen.se/Upptack-skogen/Skog-i-Sverige/S... An explanation of the phenomenon can be found in Skogsskötselsserien Nr 13 p. 14 https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ph-värde i surdrå... I ett landskap med oregelbunden topografi kommer grundvattnet på sin färd nedåt mot bäckdalar och sjöar att tränga upp till markytan på många lokalt låglänta ställen. Den hydrologiska benämningen på dessa platser (myrar, surdråg, osv) är utströmningsområden.
In view of this, I recommend the previous translation "flush" (se below) be used. Another good alternative is "wet hollow" as suggested by Norskpro on this page. However, "acidic drainage from a bog or a fen" is incorrect.
Deane Goltermann May 17, 2013:
vattendrag - spring, stream ... technically the geology should define this but practically it might not matter for your text. I see 'bog/flush' and 'flush/spring' the latter can be acidic or neutral. The context may help define the 'watercourse' your working with. If it flows openly with 'defined banks' it seems to be more stream, spring and the like. Perhaps 'bog flush' will do. Pleasant reading! I find the science of this too fascinating for my own good (deadline).

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bog/fen stream

This is another one of those local usages like this answer I gave recently,
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/swedish_to_english/tourism_travel/...
The acidic drainage from a bog or fen is what your looking for. I sense there are several ways to describe this but found this reference https://www1.cmos.ca/Amsoft Web Data/upload/6752.html; and there are refrerences to bog stream.
Depending on your geology, you might consider wooded fen for 'sumpskog' since bog/fen is geologically different from 'marsh'.

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Here's a pretty photo! http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Frozen_bog_stream,_Pe...
Must be Wales...
Note from asker:
Yea, I know that it is acidic drainage from a wetland, in this case a forested wetland, but I don't think it can be called a "stream" (or even a brook). How about simply calling it "drainage" ?
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the flush

Apparently it's been asked before - see ref.

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Oh dear! I find it's easier to search from Google for ProZ answers as it's too difficult to find them through the site!
Note from asker:
Apparently so. But that was 8 years ago, and I only looked back 7.
Peer comment(s):

agree Anna Herbst : Yes asked before and good answer given cf. Oxford dictionary: "flush, Ecology, a piece of wet ground over which water flows without being confined to a definite channel".
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Thanks Anna!
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the acid flush; the peat flush

See Geomorphology of Upland Peat: Erosion, Form and Landscape Change by Martin Evans, Jeff Warburton
Peer comment(s):

neutral Anna Herbst : "Sur" does not have to do with acidity here, but rather with being wet through, as in "genomsur".
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