Mar 24, 2005 16:36
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Latin term
Post coitum animo triste.
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I found this famous Latin phrase in an Italian text and I think it is wrong ("omne animal" inspite of "animo"?). Could you give me its rihgt form and the name of its author?
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Any creature is sad after a sexual act
A famous saying. Speaking of Italian, I remember the phrase in Umberto Eco's "Name of the Rose"
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The source Latin is \"post coitum OMNE animal triste\". Omne = any, every
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But the initial source is not Umberto Eco, it\'s Latin. If you do need the author of the sentence (a Christian forfather, I believe), I can find it, just let me know, please.
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In Russian, it\'s \"ïîñëå ñîèòèÿ âñÿêàÿ òâàðü ïå÷àëüíà\" -- a great style!
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I will provide references tomorrow, ok? Today, I\'m amidst school holidays, and my 8-year old killer needs attention this week ;-)
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Google research show that the most probable author of the maxim is Galen, but it\'s often attributed to Aristotle. Unfortunately, I failed to find an exact reference...
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Note added at 3 mins (2005-03-24 16:39:44 GMT)
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The source Latin is \"post coitum OMNE animal triste\". Omne = any, every
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Note added at 9 mins (2005-03-24 16:45:54 GMT)
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But the initial source is not Umberto Eco, it\'s Latin. If you do need the author of the sentence (a Christian forfather, I believe), I can find it, just let me know, please.
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Note added at 2 hrs 34 mins (2005-03-24 19:10:37 GMT)
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In Russian, it\'s \"ïîñëå ñîèòèÿ âñÿêàÿ òâàðü ïå÷àëüíà\" -- a great style!
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Note added at 2 hrs 36 mins (2005-03-24 19:12:24 GMT) Post-grading
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I will provide references tomorrow, ok? Today, I\'m amidst school holidays, and my 8-year old killer needs attention this week ;-)
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Note added at 14 hrs 33 mins (2005-03-25 07:09:52 GMT) Post-grading
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Google research show that the most probable author of the maxim is Galen, but it\'s often attributed to Aristotle. Unfortunately, I failed to find an exact reference...
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Andrés Martínez
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My guess is that Aristotle: "Umnia animalia post coitum opressus est"
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Flavio Ferri-Benedetti
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at least Eco says so (i've checked it) -- and I believe him
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Comment: "OK, it's Aristotle. Thank you very much EVERYBODY! Have a nice evening."
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after coitus there is sadness in the soul
I would analyse Lat. animo as an Ablativus Loci from *animus "soul, mood"
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his/her/the/a soul being sad after sexual intercourse
Or 'since/when/though his, etc. soul is sad after sexual intercourse'. 'Animo triste' is ablative absolute, which is sometimes better rendered by a subordinate clause in English instead of the nominative absolute. Ovid and other Augustan and post-Augustan poets often exhibit an -e in the ablative singular of vowel stems of the 3rd declension.
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post coitum omne animal triste (est)
Aristotle may have said something similar in Historia animalium (I'd check especially the ninth book: it's full of observations of this kind. Mind however that this particular book is only ascribed to Aristotle but isn't authentic). I recall however that Monika Maron, in her book Triste Animal, attributed this famous saying to some Pelonius, an epigram-writer, of whom I know nothing more.
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Could it be Aristotel?