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This forum topic is for the discussion of the poll question "Smart translators share. Do you agree?".
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Steven Capsuto
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| | Smart translators share *what*? | Jul 2 |
What a bafflingly vague question. 
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Diana Arbiser
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Steven Capsuto wrote:
What a bafflingly vague question. |
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I understand we are talking about sharing terminology, tips, tricks of the trade... If so, my experience has been that the more you give, the more you receive when sharing with others.
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Brandis
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Share what, we have been sharing almost all tricks, work arounds, tips through so many forums. I guess that makes us smart. Why this new Smart translators share ? It will be another month before this is published, I know. Brandis
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Yamila Sosa
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Smartness does not necessarily depend on sharing.
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Erik Hansson
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МОДЕРАТОР | | What's the use of poll questions nobody understands? | Jul 2 |
I wonder if there's anybody revising the poll questions before they are sent on-line. What's the use of a poll question nobody understands? Share _what_? Share experience? Share projects? Share TM's? I could give far more examples..
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Oleg Rudavin
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МОДЕРАТОР | | It refers to Henry's newsletter | Jul 2 |
...[June news] - the subject of which is "Smart translators share"
Presumably, part (2) is the core of it?
Cheers,
Oleg
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humbird
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| | Define "smart translator" | Jul 2 |
I don't know why I should bother.
Please let me be candid, then I say this unto you ....
"This is the stupidest question I ever come across."
Are you out of poll question questions?
[Edited at 2008-07-02 19:45]
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Amy Duncan
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I think some of the replies here are a bit harsh. I read the poll and knew immediately what was meant, although I hadn't read Henry's article. Sharing, as translators, obviously means sharing knowledge, tips, and all the great topics we talk about on these forums. Why does this make us smart? Because, as one poster put it, the more we give, the more we get. Conversely, "not smart" might mean someone who refuses to share these things, for whatever reason. Such a person is probably thinking the word "smart" means knowledgeable or intellectual...not necessarily.
Amy
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Oleg Rudavin
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| Amy Duncan wrote:the more we give, the more we get |
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One example: I've been working hard to inform the RU community that the rates we charge are way below the "average" (whatever it means) ones. The result is, the ludicrous x-cent offers are less frequent now, because the community knows better; and clients more readily agree to my higher rates
U want the situation to get better? Do something!
Cheers,
Oleg
[Edited at 2008-07-02 20:09]
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Muriel Vasconcellos
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| | Amy said it perfectly | Jul 2 |
Amy Duncan wrote:
Sharing, as translators, obviously means sharing knowledge, tips, and all the great topics we talk about on these forums. Why does this make us smart? Because, as one poster put it, the more we give, the more we get.
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If you haven't read her full comment, please do.
Definition of "smart":
# showing mental alertness and calculation and resourcefulness
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
They all apply. The mental alertness is seeing the advantage; the calculation is: "If I give to others, they will give back to me"; and the resourcefulness is saving oneself the trouble of having to figure out everything alone and from scratch.
Definition of "share":
# give out as one's portion or share
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
[Edited at 2008-07-02 20:34]
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Nigel Greenwood
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| | If you share, are you smart? | Jul 2 |
I think sharing is not being smart, well at least, not the way SMART is understood these days. Sharing is being human, being kind, professional, intelligent and of course responsible.
Being SMART implies, being selfish, looking out for your own benefit.
I like sharing, but NO I AM NOT SMART.
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Amy Duncan
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Nigel Greenwood wrote:
I think sharing is not being smart, well at least, not the way SMART is understood these days. Sharing is being human, being kind, professional, intelligent and of course responsible.
Being SMART implies, being selfish, looking out for your own benefit.
I like sharing, but NO I AM NOT SMART.
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No....if you like sharing in the way you describe, then you are SMART in the truest sense of the word!
Amy
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B D Finch
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humbird wrote:
I don't know why I should bother.
Please let me be candid, then I say this unto you ....
"This is the stupidest question I ever come across."
Are you out of poll question questions?
[Edited at 2008-07-02 19:45] |
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To be cynical:
How many points does one get for having a poll published???
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Özden Arıkan
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I think vague polls allow us to expand on our opinions and lead to better discussions here. What's the point of having everything explained and defined for us just to say a), b), or c) and leave? But then, maybe it's because of my age. I couldn't make it to the multiple-choice generation
In my opinion, smart translators share, and out of sheer selfishness, if you will. Amy explained it very nicely: the more you give, the more you take and the more you are entitled to ask for. Also, if you are smart -and we all are- you think in terms of your business and trade interests. As Oleg does. And you also want to help newcomers by sharing all you have learned, with a view to perpetuating your trade. Because being smart is not only a momentary outpour of intelligence, it's about seeing the long-term (see Muriel's definition).
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